WEBVTT 00:00:03.000 --> 00:00:07.000 All right, welcome, welcome, welcome everyone to… 00:00:07.000 --> 00:00:23.000 Another season of the ICT Accessibility Community of Practice. Really excited to start off the season with leveling up your media accessibility. This is one that I think 00:00:23.000 --> 00:00:27.000 Everyone can benefit from and. 00:00:27.000 --> 00:00:39.000 Just excited to have Matt Lauterbach here today. He is a filmmaker and accessible media artist. 00:00:39.000 --> 00:00:50.000 and has a small company called All Senses Go. And I really like his. 00:00:50.000 --> 00:01:07.000 His slogan on his website is impact a wider audience, and I just, I truly think that's something that, um, 1 thing that I've learned about accessibility is that when we, we bake it into our work and our products or our 00:01:07.000 --> 00:01:24.000 Our media, our social media that we reach more people and it just allows for more people to to understand what we do and and and utilize our services and so I think that really holds true. 00:01:24.000 --> 00:01:27.000 And so. 00:01:27.000 --> 00:01:36.000 With that, I just want to state a little quick housekeeping here is that there is closed captions. If you 00:01:36.000 --> 00:01:51.000 And there's the three dots and it says more in the toolbar, there will be a show captions CC button as well as it might just be already in your toolbar. Zoom likes to kind of 00:01:51.000 --> 00:02:08.000 play around with that but those are the closed captions. This will be recorded. I will be posting it on to AT Community, so if you want to go back and you're like, hey, I remember something from that one presentation. 00:02:08.000 --> 00:02:22.000 You can go back and watch it and as well as get the transcript that will be on AT Community in our resources section. I'll put that in the chat box a little later here. 00:02:22.000 --> 00:02:37.000 And I'll also put my email. My name is Ryan Rausch. I am the training and technical assistance lead here at ATAP AT3. If you need to get a hold of me, have any questions. 00:02:37.000 --> 00:02:45.000 Yeah, great numbers. Thanks for joining. And so with that, I am going to toss it over to Matt. 00:02:45.000 --> 00:02:47.000 Matt, take it away. 00:02:47.000 --> 00:03:02.000 Awesome. Thank you. Yeah. So again, I'm Matt Lauterbach. I'm I'm a filmmaker, and I'm gonna just plug my most recent film that I was editor and associate producer on a beautiful film called While We Are Here. 00:03:02.000 --> 00:03:22.000 I just have to do the shameless plug for that film. And yeah, Ryan mentioned my company, All Senses Go, and the mission of this small company is to really, I really want to build a filmmaking community that prioritizes access to captions, audio description, 00:03:22.000 --> 00:03:36.000 and accessible screenings. Yes, with that intent of building a wider audience. And so that's what I'd love to speak with you about tonight. Thank you for Ian Rausch for the invitation to speak to all of you. 00:03:36.000 --> 00:03:53.000 I'm going to try to make this fairly interactive, so there'll be some things that we watch together, and then I want to get your ideas and reactions and thoughts, so feel free to just come off mute, um, or do the digital hand raise, however you want to do it, but I'd love. 00:03:53.000 --> 00:03:58.000 I'd love participation from you all during those sections. 00:03:58.000 --> 00:04:14.000 Quick agenda, I'm going to do a very brief intro to media accessibility, but then the meat of what we're going to do is look at real world example of accessible media. And we're going to discuss ways to level up that 00:04:14.000 --> 00:04:29.000 accessibility and extend even higher quality access with additional time, I'll try to fit in some a couple how-to demos. We'll look at how to clean up YouTube's automatic captions. 00:04:29.000 --> 00:04:35.000 We'll look at adding AD to YouTube videos. 00:04:35.000 --> 00:04:46.000 And if there's time at the end, I'll also just tease you with the potential for a new paradigm for accessible video production. 00:04:46.000 --> 00:04:49.000 So, sound good? 00:04:49.000 --> 00:04:58.000 All right, thumbs up. So quick intro to media accessibility. When we're talking about media accessibility, we're talking about basically constructing a ramp. 00:04:58.000 --> 00:05:16.000 people with sensory disabilities. So captions provide a ramp or access to sounds for people who are deaf or hard of hearing, and that includes the and other sounds. 00:05:16.000 --> 00:05:24.000 then verbal description provides access to visuals for people who are blind or have low vision. 00:05:24.000 --> 00:05:33.000 And so those are kind of the two things that we're talking about when we're talking about media accessibility. Captions and description. 00:05:33.000 --> 00:05:40.000 And a way I really like to think of it is captions transform sounds into readable words. 00:05:40.000 --> 00:05:46.000 And verbal description transforms images into audible words. 00:05:46.000 --> 00:05:51.000 And they each benefit a different, wider audience. So… 00:05:51.000 --> 00:06:05.000 That's the basics, right? And it seems super straightforward, but the technology and the craft of creating those two assets, those two accessibility assets, it has a bit of a learning curve. 00:06:05.000 --> 00:06:12.000 So what I'd love to do, we're kind of moving on to the real world example section. 00:06:12.000 --> 00:06:32.000 I want to look together at a really amazing video by one of the Community of Practice members, Amy Perrin, not positive, I'm saying Amy's name correctly, but Amy is with the STAR program of Minnesota's Assistive Technology Act program. 00:06:32.000 --> 00:06:42.000 And helm to this amazing adapted living series that profiles different tools built for people with disabilities. 00:06:42.000 --> 00:06:52.000 And I'd like us to watch together. We're going to actually watch successive versions of this same video. 00:06:52.000 --> 00:06:55.000 with a profile of Rashad. 00:06:55.000 --> 00:07:11.000 Who uses a quad stick to play video games. And this short like minute and a half video shows how it's a demo of how he uses the quad stick, and there's some narration that goes along with it. So we're going to watch this. 00:07:11.000 --> 00:07:23.000 Without any accessibility, so it'll just be, you know, the typical audio-visual presentation first. And while you're watching, just, you know, keep 00:07:23.000 --> 00:07:35.000 Keep in mind, what do you think the strengths of this video are? And I'll ask, I'll pose that question after we watch. Just let's briefly talk about what is working really well about this video. 00:07:35.000 --> 00:07:40.000 Okay, so I'm going to do a screen share. 00:07:40.000 --> 00:07:42.000 And we're going to go to a 00:07:42.000 --> 00:07:48.000 Adaptive gaming with Quad Stick, Rashad set up for spinal cord injury. 00:07:48.000 --> 00:07:59.000 And I'm just confirming that I enabled sound, so Flag Me Down if, for whatever reason, the sound or picture is not coming through well, and uh… and I'll troubleshoot. 00:07:59.000 --> 00:08:03.000 Okay, but if everyone's ready, I'll click play and here we go. 00:08:03.000 --> 00:08:13.000 So again, we're watching and just think about what's working well about this video. 00:08:13.000 --> 00:08:28.000 Now that you've met Rashad, a gamer with a spinal cord injury, let's learn about his adapted gaming setup. Rashad built a gaming PC designed to run video game emulators so he can play all of his favorite retro games. The device in his mouth is called the Quad Stick. 00:08:28.000 --> 00:08:43.000 The QuadStick has a joystick, topped with a mouthpiece that has four sip and puff tubes. Moving the joystick with his mouth moves the mouse around the screen, or moves his character in the game. Rashad has programmed the sip and puff tubes to perform mouse clicks, 00:08:43.000 --> 00:09:03.000 and press keyboard keys like Enter or Escape. He uses the quad stick as a mouse to control his computer, type using the on-screen keyboard, and control the characters in his games. The lights at the top of the quadstick represent different profiles. Each profile can be programmed to perform different actions depending on which tube is sipped or 00:09:03.000 --> 00:09:18.000 puffed into. For example, in the mouse profile, sipping into the center tube sends a left click, and puffing into the center tube sends a right click. In the racing profile, sipping the center tube sends the spacebar key. 00:09:18.000 --> 00:09:20.000 which activates Boost. 00:09:20.000 --> 00:09:28.000 puffing the center tube sends the S key, which activates drift. It takes a lot of practice to master the quad stick. 00:09:28.000 --> 00:09:36.000 Fortunately, the practice is a whole lot of fun, and the payoff is hard to beat. 00:09:36.000 --> 00:09:38.000 Okay. 00:09:38.000 --> 00:09:41.000 All right, so, um… 00:09:41.000 --> 00:09:48.000 Yeah, let's turn to just a quick discussion of what you felt was working really well about 00:09:48.000 --> 00:09:54.000 this video. And is Amy here today? Is Amy with us? 00:09:54.000 --> 00:09:56.000 Don't believe she is, Matt. 00:09:56.000 --> 00:09:57.000 Okay. 00:09:57.000 --> 00:09:58.000 We don't see her, no. 00:09:58.000 --> 00:10:17.000 Well, I'd like to applaud Amy for this film, or this short video, and a bunch of other videos that were part of this series. Very well-produced, highly produced, and, um, engaging. What did you all appreciate about it? 00:10:17.000 --> 00:10:22.000 This is Angela. I like that the speaker spoke slowly. 00:10:22.000 --> 00:10:35.000 Yes, yes, Angela, I think the pace of delivery of narration is very important for accessibility. Great. What else? 00:10:35.000 --> 00:10:50.000 Yeah, this is Maureen. I felt like his voice, also, as a narrator, was just super easy to listen to. It was clear, um, easy to follow, and the visuals supported, like, it was synced up well. You were like, oh, that's what's happening. 00:10:50.000 --> 00:11:00.000 Absolutely, yeah, very clear explanations by an easy to listen to voice that synchronized really well with the visuals. 00:11:00.000 --> 00:11:06.000 Great. Any other things you noted about how this is working? 00:11:06.000 --> 00:11:13.000 As an AV product. 00:11:13.000 --> 00:11:14.000 Yeah. 00:11:14.000 --> 00:11:27.000 Hi, this is Jeremy. I noticed how the description not only synced up well, but was very it didn't leave anything to our imagination. It was describing exactly what was going on, and we didn't need 00:11:27.000 --> 00:11:31.000 any more information to understand the story and understand what… 00:11:31.000 --> 00:11:32.000 Yeah. 00:11:32.000 --> 00:11:33.000 What she was conveying. 00:11:33.000 --> 00:11:48.000 Yeah, it did a lot of work helping us to interpret what we were seeing, right? You know, the visuals were, to some extent, a little repetitive. You know, you saw, um, uh, Rashad with 00:11:48.000 --> 00:12:04.000 his mouth on the controller, but it showed various aspects of that, and the narration helped us interpret what Rashad was doing in each shot. Um, so yeah, really, really wonderful film. 00:12:04.000 --> 00:12:09.000 And again, this is just one of a whole series of very fundamental 00:12:09.000 --> 00:12:15.000 to watch interesting and informative videos. Cool videos about adaptive tech. 00:12:15.000 --> 00:12:16.000 And… it's 00:12:16.000 --> 00:12:24.000 likely because of the topic that there would be YouTube viewers who are blind or deaf who may be interested in this too. 00:12:24.000 --> 00:12:34.000 So the next step after producing this wonderful video is to add adaptive tech to your video. In other words, the captions and audio description. 00:12:34.000 --> 00:12:44.000 So YouTube does add auto captions by default to any video you upload. And so… 00:12:44.000 --> 00:13:01.000 I want to share the same video again, but we're going to do a little experiment. I'm going to ask a bit of a leading question, which is, are auto captions good enough? But instead of just answering that for you, I want us to experience auto captions. 00:13:01.000 --> 00:13:14.000 Um, as the only channel of information that we get. So I'm going to turn the audio off as we watch, and you'll just see the auto captions. 00:13:14.000 --> 00:13:25.000 And so I want us to talk about after this little experience, you know, is it good enough for access to the video content, to the narration? 00:13:25.000 --> 00:13:33.000 If not, why not? Let's talk about the problems or comprehension difficulties that you had while following the auto captions. 00:13:33.000 --> 00:13:35.000 Okay, so… 00:13:35.000 --> 00:13:41.000 Whoops, I don't want to share the whole screen. I just want to share. 00:13:41.000 --> 00:13:42.000 This one here. 00:13:42.000 --> 00:13:47.000 Okay, so again, I'm going to mute the video. 00:13:47.000 --> 00:13:52.000 We'll start over and I'm going to go into my settings and choose… 00:13:52.000 --> 00:14:01.000 There's subtitles CC, so I clicked the gear icon, then subtitles CC and I'm going to choose English auto generated. 00:14:01.000 --> 00:14:09.000 Okay, and let's watch that. You won't get any sound, so don't worry, there's no technical issue going on. It's intentionally silent. 00:14:09.000 --> 00:14:39.000 And let's see how well you're able to follow things. Here we go. 00:15:41.000 --> 00:15:43.000 Bye. 00:15:43.000 --> 00:16:00.000 So, I do see some comments already came in in the chat, and I'll read those, but I'd also love to hear from others of how… what this experience was like. Um, so, Peyton said, without punctuation, the cadence of the narration is 00:16:00.000 --> 00:16:16.000 completely lost. And there were two additional thumbs up from other participants to that comment. And then Angela said punctuation and hard returns. Feel like I might miss visuals reading captions. 00:16:16.000 --> 00:16:31.000 I think that's an amazing point. Yeah, when I was watching, I'm just like waiting, when is the next word gonna appear? And I'm just like trying to form the thought in my head of like, wait, what's the actual sentence here? And… 00:16:31.000 --> 00:16:42.000 And I realized that I hadn't looked up for a while. You know, my eyes were just kind of chained to the auto captions emerging word by word. 00:16:42.000 --> 00:16:51.000 What did others experience? Any other kinds of nuances to your experience? 00:16:51.000 --> 00:16:53.000 This is Jim Hone Michael in South Dakota. 00:16:53.000 --> 00:16:55.000 Hey. 00:16:55.000 --> 00:17:02.000 My take on it, though, was I agree with those other comments, but I was impressed with. 00:17:02.000 --> 00:17:16.000 well the captioning was as far as accuracy, you know, not a bunch of 00:17:16.000 --> 00:17:17.000 Beautiful. 00:17:17.000 --> 00:17:19.000 junk words or words that were, you know, obviously out of place. Compared to what my phone does when I try to use voice texting, that was phenomenal. 00:17:19.000 --> 00:17:37.000 Yes, and I… so that two things. One is just how good speech recognition technology has been getting. I do want to acknowledge that, but the other, it goes back to the comments some of you already made about the clarity of the narration. 00:17:37.000 --> 00:17:50.000 Um, speech recognition does great when audio is recorded in such a clear way, and when the person speaking does so at a slow-measured pace and clearly. 00:17:50.000 --> 00:18:06.000 Um, the more ums and uhs and, you know, running and, you know, noise in the background, etc., if you try this same experiment with Nirvana's Nevermind, 00:18:06.000 --> 00:18:15.000 or smells like team spirit, uh, you will get absolute gobbledygook. Um, and so it really does depend on the clarity of the original sound. 00:18:15.000 --> 00:18:32.000 I see a couple other comments. We do love auto captions as a starting point. Yep, they've gotten so much better in the last few years. Angela says little things like quad stick should be capitalized and trademarked properly." Yeah, and that's where, um… 00:18:32.000 --> 00:18:47.000 You know, again, AI is improving on this front, but there are trademark words or proper names of people in the film that AI might not know how to spell. You know, is it… 00:18:47.000 --> 00:18:48.000 Uh… . 00:18:48.000 --> 00:19:03.000 Cheryl, or sorry, let's do Karen. Is it Karen or is it C-A-R-Y-N, or is it K-E-A-R-E-N? You know, AI would not know there's certain things that just AI cannot know. 00:19:03.000 --> 00:19:04.000 Um… 00:19:04.000 --> 00:19:18.000 So, Ryan said reminds me of old dragon days, when you have to speak like a robot. And then Katie says, the camera angles help when the caption might run on and be confusing of what to focus on. 00:19:18.000 --> 00:19:22.000 Yeah, I think that's getting at the fact that the captions… 00:19:22.000 --> 00:19:25.000 here just come across as run-on sentences, right? 00:19:25.000 --> 00:19:35.000 And maybe, you know, when it cuts to a new angle, we can think, okay, a thought must have ended. And so now this is a new sentence. 00:19:35.000 --> 00:19:51.000 Really, it's very hard. You know, the punctuation is missing, we have to guess when a sentence ends and starts. The capitalization is uneven. Sometimes things were capitalized, sometimes they weren't. And then we already talked about how our eyes sort of have to lock onto the words. 00:19:51.000 --> 00:20:07.000 Um, so this is why, and I'm sure all of you know this already, but this is why it's so important to edit and correct the captions. And Amy's team did. Um, so again, I'm gonna go… we're gonna watch 00:20:07.000 --> 00:20:15.000 another time and see the captions that Amy's team created. So here I'm going to go to the gear icon again. 00:20:15.000 --> 00:20:19.000 I'm going to select the English subtitles. 00:20:19.000 --> 00:20:21.000 And we'll go back. 00:20:21.000 --> 00:20:37.000 Well, spoiler alert, there are things that I would improve about these captions. And so I'm interested to see what you all would like to improve about these captions. And again, the best way to assess 00:20:37.000 --> 00:20:41.000 how well something is working is by watching it without sound. 00:20:41.000 --> 00:20:49.000 And so we're going to do that same exercise, watching Amy's team captions without sound, and same thing, tell me what's… 00:20:49.000 --> 00:21:19.000 working well and what's not working well. Okay, here we go. 00:22:24.000 --> 00:22:25.000 Okay. Holly. 00:22:25.000 --> 00:22:31.000 I'll reverse it this time, and instead of starting by reading the chat contributions. 00:22:31.000 --> 00:22:45.000 What reactions, anyone who wants to come off mute, what reactions did you have when experiencing the film with those captions? 00:22:45.000 --> 00:22:46.000 Bye. 00:22:46.000 --> 00:22:48.000 And this is Eli. It seemed like… 00:22:48.000 --> 00:22:54.000 So, I guess the way I was going to describe it is like they're very wide. Like, it's hard to, like, 00:22:54.000 --> 00:22:58.000 read that whole long sentence versus thinking of either. 00:22:58.000 --> 00:23:03.000 condensing it so that it's, like, smaller chunks to take in at a time. 00:23:03.000 --> 00:23:09.000 Um, and smaller sentences to read portion by portion, if that makes sense. 00:23:09.000 --> 00:23:20.000 Absolutely. So you're really keen into, you know, line length and sentence portioning, how things are divided into sort of thought units, right? 00:23:20.000 --> 00:23:21.000 Great, thank you, Eli. 00:23:21.000 --> 00:23:22.000 Yeah, yeah. 00:23:22.000 --> 00:23:31.000 Yeah, what else did people either notice that worked well or were struggling with? 00:23:31.000 --> 00:23:52.000 Yeah, this Maureen, I think this is very similar to what Eli was saying, but it was driving me crazy when the sentence broke across one screen to the next. And so there's a pause. And in my mind I was that the end of the sentence or is there more content coming? And then there's more content, which makes you have to recall where you were at. 00:23:52.000 --> 00:24:01.000 But the screen is changing constantly and some of the times I felt like I had so much time, and other times it was like, oh, it's gone. I wasn't finished. 00:24:01.000 --> 00:24:03.000 Uh-huh. 00:24:03.000 --> 00:24:06.000 Pacing felt like it didn't match. 00:24:06.000 --> 00:24:24.000 Yeah, yeah, and you make a really good point about the images are changing pretty rapidly. And so when the captions run across several changing images, it can be hard, you know, your eyes jump up because the image changed, but then you're like, 00:24:24.000 --> 00:24:27.000 Wait, did anything change in the caption? No, I guess not. 00:24:27.000 --> 00:24:34.000 But it's hard to know. And I describe the experience as 00:24:34.000 --> 00:24:50.000 like, when sentences are too wide and the lines break in the middle of a thought, it can feel like we're experiencing a slow connection, right? Like the captions are freezing and buffering at intervals. 00:24:50.000 --> 00:24:54.000 And then suddenly it catches up and you're like, whoa. 00:24:54.000 --> 00:25:05.000 So some comments that came in, it would be easier to read if each set of captions were a full sentence, right, rather than two half sentences. 00:25:05.000 --> 00:25:12.000 Angela says I want to customize my color, size, opacity, and location of my caption box. Okay. 00:25:12.000 --> 00:25:19.000 And Peyton says there's more caption on screen at a time than I think I would prefer. And I think that, you know, 00:25:19.000 --> 00:25:27.000 pays not to how wide the captions were, but also how many words and characters were present at any one time. 00:25:27.000 --> 00:25:38.000 Um, and then, uh, leilani says, attempt to keep sentences together would improve understanding. And then Katie says, the black caption background helps the writing to be seen. 00:25:38.000 --> 00:25:45.000 Yes, that's really important. Sometimes, uh, when teams burn in captions, 00:25:45.000 --> 00:25:58.000 They are doing only white text on whatever background is in the video, and that can make the captions very hard to read. So if you are burning in your captions for any reason, the black background 00:25:58.000 --> 00:26:02.000 background really helps legibility. 00:26:02.000 --> 00:26:07.000 Um, great. 00:26:07.000 --> 00:26:08.000 The, um… 00:26:08.000 --> 00:26:12.000 Someone mentioned that the music descriptor got dropped. 00:26:12.000 --> 00:26:19.000 But that's another thing that I would suggest, is when the opening card came up, 00:26:19.000 --> 00:26:35.000 I wasn't sure, like, is anything audible happening during that logo? And so that's important to do as well. So, line length too long, character count too high, line breaks are disorienting, and 00:26:35.000 --> 00:26:42.000 We have a hard time tracking what is synchronizing with what. 00:26:42.000 --> 00:26:44.000 Okay, so… 00:26:44.000 --> 00:26:48.000 Later, I'll show you the backend of YouTube. 00:26:48.000 --> 00:27:04.000 So, hang tight, because I'll just have to shift some things in order to get into the back end on my YouTube studio. But I'll show you how to address these issues in a few moments. 00:27:04.000 --> 00:27:06.000 So, well, 00:27:06.000 --> 00:27:09.000 Also review some of the best practices. 00:27:09.000 --> 00:27:18.000 So before we go to the back end of YouTube, let's just shift a little bit to the consideration of blind viewers. 00:27:18.000 --> 00:27:27.000 Okay, so typically, audio description is kind of added into the gaps and the breathing room between dialogue. 00:27:27.000 --> 00:27:35.000 So, if you're watching, say, on Netflix, a, you know, Bridgerton, 00:27:35.000 --> 00:27:43.000 Whenever someone is not speaking or whenever there's just atmospheric sounds rather than important sound cues, there will 00:27:43.000 --> 00:27:54.000 be a narration voice when you've activated the audio description, there will be a voice kind of telling the blind or low vision viewer. 00:27:54.000 --> 00:27:56.000 What's happening on screen. 00:27:56.000 --> 00:27:58.000 And… what do you… 00:27:58.000 --> 00:28:09.000 do when a video is only 90 seconds long? Okay, thank you, Maureen. When a video is only 90 seconds long and it has continuous narration. 00:28:09.000 --> 00:28:19.000 Right? This video of Rashad, it has a lot of great visuals. They're going in parallel to the narration, but there's no time to describe anything. 00:28:19.000 --> 00:28:23.000 for blind and low vision viewers. 00:28:23.000 --> 00:28:24.000 Dan? 00:28:24.000 --> 00:28:31.000 A different solution, right, so captions were for our deaf and hard of hearing audiences. 00:28:31.000 --> 00:28:34.000 to gain access to the sound. 00:28:34.000 --> 00:28:48.000 Audio description is for our blind audience members to gain access to the visuals. Okay, so with no time to describe anything because of the continuous narration, Amy's team had to innovate. 00:28:48.000 --> 00:28:59.000 So, let me let turn our attention back to this screen share, and I'm going to actually kind of click on the title to open up the description panel. 00:28:59.000 --> 00:29:10.000 And you'll see, you know, explore the world of adaptive gaming with Rashad. This video delves into how Rashad uses the mouth-controlled assistive technology device to play his games. 00:29:10.000 --> 00:29:17.000 Learn how the quads joystick and sip and puff features allow him to navigate, click, type, and control his gaming experience. 00:29:17.000 --> 00:29:23.000 And then down at the below, it says to access a description of visuals. 00:29:23.000 --> 00:29:28.000 Select the English United States subtitle track. 00:29:28.000 --> 00:29:30.000 Okay. 00:29:30.000 --> 00:29:32.000 So, um… 00:29:32.000 --> 00:29:38.000 This is… this is a hack, right? This is Amy's team being like, 00:29:38.000 --> 00:29:44.000 Okay, there's no time to describe anything. And a year ago, when this was posted, 00:29:44.000 --> 00:29:50.000 there was no secondary audio track feature for YouTubers. 00:29:50.000 --> 00:30:03.000 So their hands were kind of tied and this is the creative solution they came up with. So I'm going to follow their instructions to access a description of visuals, select the English Audio United States. 00:30:03.000 --> 00:30:06.000 Sorry, English United States subtitle track. 00:30:06.000 --> 00:30:20.000 back to the settings, subtitle CC. Okay, so there's English, that was the captions. There's English audio generated. Those were the auto captions. And then English United States is going to have descriptions of the visuals. 00:30:20.000 --> 00:30:26.000 So let's watch one more time. I am gonna keep the audio off. 00:30:26.000 --> 00:30:27.000 Um… 00:30:27.000 --> 00:30:35.000 But the reason I'm doing this has a lot to do with the main reason this solution 00:30:35.000 --> 00:30:42.000 isn't quite working when it comes to access, which is the conflict between 00:30:42.000 --> 00:30:54.000 Words describing visuals and then words describing sounds. So I'm just going to reduce things down to words describing visuals and we're going to take. 00:30:54.000 --> 00:30:58.000 We're going to take the audio out of the equation. But you'll 00:30:58.000 --> 00:31:11.000 You'll see, well, when we watch, I'd like you to look again for what you like, what's working about their descriptions, and what's not working. 00:31:11.000 --> 00:31:13.000 Here we go. 00:31:13.000 --> 00:31:43.000 And actually I'm going to make this a little bigger for everyone. Okay. 00:32:44.000 --> 00:32:47.000 Okay. 00:32:47.000 --> 00:32:58.000 So what are your reactions to this creative hack? How did it work and are you confused about anything in terms of how it's delivered to 00:32:58.000 --> 00:33:07.000 blind audience members. 00:33:07.000 --> 00:33:08.000 Right. 00:33:08.000 --> 00:33:10.000 So this is Angela. So the screen reader would read the captions, and then they would have the audio on. 00:33:10.000 --> 00:33:13.000 At the same time, and there may be overlaps. 00:33:13.000 --> 00:33:14.000 Mm-hmm. Yeah. 00:33:14.000 --> 00:33:15.000 Okay. 00:33:15.000 --> 00:33:27.000 Yeah, yeah. And that is the hack. So a screen reader can access the captioned transcript and it will be read aloud. 00:33:27.000 --> 00:33:38.000 while they're watching. But absolutely, we noted how the dialogue, the narration, was continuous. This will be a second continuous narration. 00:33:38.000 --> 00:33:53.000 top of the video narration and you know I I know dolphins have two halves of their brains and can sleep on one half and be awake on the other. I don't know. It's really hard for humans to take in two simultaneous 00:33:53.000 --> 00:34:09.000 tracks of audio. So this, while creative, it's not the standard way to deliver audio description. It's, you know, there's a potential that someone could listen to the transcript. 00:34:09.000 --> 00:34:12.000 itself without pressing play, and 00:34:12.000 --> 00:34:24.000 then piece together what they listened to from the audio description transcript while they're listening to the narration. But it's still kind of a disjointed experience, right? 00:34:24.000 --> 00:34:27.000 So, um… 00:34:27.000 --> 00:34:33.000 This is confusing to caption users as well, right? Because with Word… 00:34:33.000 --> 00:34:39.000 Deaf or hard of hearing or just someone who benefits from having captions on. 00:34:39.000 --> 00:34:46.000 I mean, how do we know which one to here, let me change this so you can see it a little better. How will we know which one to choose, right? 00:34:46.000 --> 00:35:03.000 If we could very easily miss this instruction here to access a description of visuals, select the English United States subtitle track. So a caption users like English, English United States, English auto generated. Well, I know I don't want to auto generated, so which of these do I want? 00:35:03.000 --> 00:35:14.000 Well, I live in the United States, so I'll choose that one. And then they're getting description of the visuals and are probably very confused. 00:35:14.000 --> 00:35:16.000 Okay. Um… 00:35:16.000 --> 00:35:18.000 So… 00:35:18.000 --> 00:35:23.000 There is… now, I'm gonna go ahead and stop the share… 00:35:23.000 --> 00:35:39.000 There is a way to add traditional audio description now. A year ago, again, there wasn't. YouTube had not yet rolled out the secondary audio track feature, which enables you to upload another track of audio, 00:35:39.000 --> 00:35:47.000 that the user can toggle on to hear the audio description. 00:35:47.000 --> 00:35:52.000 If you are all curious about how to get access to this new feature, it is 00:35:52.000 --> 00:35:58.000 kind of locked behind YouTube's advanced features. 00:35:58.000 --> 00:36:09.000 So to get access to those advanced features, you have to verify your phone number. You have to complete one of three verification options. You have to do either like a… 00:36:09.000 --> 00:36:23.000 a weird, like, scan of your face. You have to submit a valid ID, or your channel history has to be really solid, like, 2 months of posting and being in good standing with the YouTube community. 00:36:23.000 --> 00:36:39.000 Um, so many of you, you know, you'll just… I'll show you how to do this, but you'll kind of need to check your YouTube channels and see, do you have access to this feature yet or not? If you don't have access, there's still 00:36:39.000 --> 00:36:54.000 ways to deliver audio description. I'll describe them to you and then we'll switch over to the back end of YouTube to take a look under the hood. So in terms of solutions, oh, leilani, did you have a question? 00:36:54.000 --> 00:37:01.000 Yeah, sorry, I didn't mean to interrupt. I just have a quick question about the actual audio descriptions and your perspective on 00:37:01.000 --> 00:37:13.000 The quality of the audio descriptions to me, I didn't even notice the lights on the quad stick until they were pointed out in the audio descriptions. I wouldn't have noticed that it was a Disney. 00:37:13.000 --> 00:37:21.000 Video playing, and whether or not that information is as relevant. 00:37:21.000 --> 00:37:31.000 Right. 00:37:31.000 --> 00:37:32.000 Right. 00:37:32.000 --> 00:37:33.000 To the viewer in terms of the more the, the captions really describe really well, I think the audio. I mean, they describe what's going on. So I'm just curious what your thoughts were on that. 00:37:33.000 --> 00:37:49.000 I think that's a wonderful point, leilani. So the narration, I'll call it narration just so we don't get confused by the three different sets of captions that were on this video, but the narration, the host, right, who's explaining things. 00:37:49.000 --> 00:37:54.000 already does a very good job of explaining what Rashad is doing. 00:37:54.000 --> 00:37:59.000 And then the descriptive narration, 00:37:59.000 --> 00:38:15.000 The question I think you're raising, leani, is a good one. Is it too much detail? Is it too much information? Is it something that a sighted audience would notice? So there are two camps here. One is that 00:38:15.000 --> 00:38:26.000 you know, audio description should take an equivalence point of view, and, you know, if… if it's noticed and relevant to a sighted audience, then it should be mentioned in the description. 00:38:26.000 --> 00:38:37.000 If it's not noticed by a sighted audience, or if it's not essential to understanding the plot or the 00:38:37.000 --> 00:38:40.000 the… what's happening on screen. 00:38:40.000 --> 00:38:49.000 Again, you don't need to describe it. Then there is a camp who believes that, well, if audio description helps. 00:38:49.000 --> 00:39:00.000 to interpret what maybe even subconsciously a sighted person would notice, then that's good. 00:39:00.000 --> 00:39:07.000 So I don't think there's a hard and firm answer, but certainly when you are describing 00:39:07.000 --> 00:39:12.000 In the three seconds you have available between pieces of dialogue, 00:39:12.000 --> 00:39:17.000 you're not going to be able to fit as much detail as was in this. 00:39:17.000 --> 00:39:18.000 Um, so… 00:39:18.000 --> 00:39:22.000 Did that kind of address your question? 00:39:22.000 --> 00:39:32.000 Yeah, absolutely. It's… I agree with you. Yes, it supports information and supports understanding, so thank you, I appreciate that. 00:39:32.000 --> 00:39:47.000 Yeah, absolutely. I'm realizing just how quickly time has been flying. So we have about 20 minutes left. I want to make sure I get to the back end, but let me just describe first a few of the ways you can still get description in. 00:39:47.000 --> 00:39:59.000 Even if you can't add a secondary audio track. And these are solutions that I would recommend over the sort of hack solution of putting it into the captions, which isn't the right place for it. 00:39:59.000 --> 00:40:03.000 You can add a written description, so kind of a… 00:40:03.000 --> 00:40:09.000 you know, paragraph, a written paragraph that describes the visuals, and you can add that into the 00:40:09.000 --> 00:40:16.000 pages, description fields, sorry, I'll just go ahead and share screen one more time. Um… 00:40:16.000 --> 00:40:20.000 you know, where it says explore the world of adaptive gaming. 00:40:20.000 --> 00:40:26.000 You can add a narrative, a description, sorry, a descriptive narration. 00:40:26.000 --> 00:40:29.000 in that… 00:40:29.000 --> 00:40:31.000 space here. 00:40:31.000 --> 00:40:40.000 So you just go into more depth. So this video shows Rashad doing this, playing these types of games. 00:40:40.000 --> 00:40:48.000 etc. And so it's just basically a description of the film that includes. 00:40:48.000 --> 00:40:53.000 sort of a preloaded description of the visuals. 00:40:53.000 --> 00:41:00.000 So someone's screen reader can pick that up, get an orientation to what's happening in the film, and then… 00:41:00.000 --> 00:41:07.000 you know, the host narration does a really good job of explaining things beyond that. 00:41:07.000 --> 00:41:19.000 You can also create what's called a descriptive transcript, and that includes the dialogue that's in the captions, but then you basically piece in, you know, interweave 00:41:19.000 --> 00:41:21.000 the descriptions that were in… 00:41:21.000 --> 00:41:35.000 that Amy's teams audio description captions, and you interweave those into a single unified descriptive transcript, both the dialogue 00:41:35.000 --> 00:41:41.000 And the descriptions in one transcript that you can link to. 00:41:41.000 --> 00:41:53.000 In this description field of the video, kind of like, you know, instead of quadstick.com slash shop, you could link to a descriptive transcript Google document. 00:41:53.000 --> 00:42:00.000 And again, it's not a great solution because it takes you out of the… 00:42:00.000 --> 00:42:03.000 Uh, video environment into a separate, you know, 00:42:03.000 --> 00:42:07.000 Text-to-speech only audio world. 00:42:07.000 --> 00:42:13.000 And so a couple other options are creating an audio intro. 00:42:13.000 --> 00:42:17.000 Same thing as the written description, but you could create. 00:42:17.000 --> 00:42:22.000 At the beginning of the video, an audible introduction for. 00:42:22.000 --> 00:42:25.000 Uh, your blind audience. 00:42:25.000 --> 00:42:44.000 Or you could create an extended audio description track. I see NJ that you have a question, do I have an example of that weaving of captioning and description? I really should have had one at the ready, but I'm going to write a note to follow up with Ryan and share one with you all so you can have access to it after the fact. 00:42:44.000 --> 00:42:46.000 Um… 00:42:46.000 --> 00:42:59.000 So suffice to say, there's a lot of different options that you have, all having to do with kind of putting additional links or ancillary material inside here. 00:42:59.000 --> 00:43:08.000 You can even create an audio version of this film that pauses a little more between the host. 00:43:08.000 --> 00:43:13.000 and the descriptive narration to basically. 00:43:13.000 --> 00:43:18.000 create an audible version of that descriptive transcript. 00:43:18.000 --> 00:43:19.000 Um… 00:43:19.000 --> 00:43:31.000 Okay, hopefully that those options made sense. I realized I rushed through them just because I'm keeping an eye on the time. But I want to make sure to show you the backend here. 00:43:31.000 --> 00:43:38.000 Okay, so I'm going to go to my own YouTube now. 00:43:38.000 --> 00:43:42.000 And, um… 00:43:42.000 --> 00:43:46.000 I'm going to go to my YouTube studio. 00:43:46.000 --> 00:43:48.000 We go home. 00:43:48.000 --> 00:43:51.000 And then… 00:43:51.000 --> 00:43:57.000 I have, because I have the advanced features, I have a languages option. 00:43:57.000 --> 00:44:05.000 But you, if you do not have the advanced features, you would have a subtitles option. So, I'm going to go to Content, 00:44:05.000 --> 00:44:10.000 Then we're going to look at this demo of Meet the Actors. 00:44:10.000 --> 00:44:12.000 And… 00:44:12.000 --> 00:44:23.000 I want to show you how to access the captions here. So this is languages, this little pop-up, this button here. 00:44:23.000 --> 00:44:25.000 And then in languages, 00:44:25.000 --> 00:44:32.000 There's a little pencil icon next to video language English, and if you click that, 00:44:32.000 --> 00:44:41.000 You can see that there are automatic subtitles that have already been published, because YouTube publishes it automatically. 00:44:41.000 --> 00:44:44.000 There's an audio field, 00:44:44.000 --> 00:44:46.000 which says original. 00:44:46.000 --> 00:44:50.000 So that's the original audio of the video and that's been published. 00:44:50.000 --> 00:44:54.000 And then there's this manual subtitles option. 00:44:54.000 --> 00:45:08.000 And this is what I want to point out to you. The nice thing about how YouTube has arranged this is you can add manual subtitles that immediately draw from the automatic subtitles, 00:45:08.000 --> 00:45:13.000 And then you can edit those subtitles. So I'm going to click Add. 00:45:13.000 --> 00:45:17.000 And boom, there's the auto transcript. 00:45:17.000 --> 00:45:21.000 And you'll note that it is all one paragraph. 00:45:21.000 --> 00:45:24.000 I click play… 00:45:24.000 --> 00:45:28.000 When I get to hear the performers and meet them, 00:45:28.000 --> 00:45:32.000 describe themselves as well as their costumes. 00:45:32.000 --> 00:45:41.000 It gives me my first visit with the character. And my name is Corey, I portray Buddy. Um, Buddy… 00:45:41.000 --> 00:45:47.000 Like so many of our inner city youth, he has the fitted cap. 00:45:47.000 --> 00:45:53.000 is often not worn correctly and twisted to the side. He has the durag. 00:45:53.000 --> 00:45:58.000 Um, he has the saggy jeans that sag below his butt. 00:45:58.000 --> 00:46:01.000 Okay, so I'm just going to pause. 00:46:01.000 --> 00:46:04.000 So you'll see that this solution 00:46:04.000 --> 00:46:19.000 Um, has the same problems that we noted in Amy's teams edited captions, where sentences are kind of being cut in half and two half sentences are being put together. 00:46:19.000 --> 00:46:24.000 And it's not, uh, parsed well, right? 00:46:24.000 --> 00:46:34.000 The amazing thing about what YouTube enables is you don't really even have to deal with this timeline down here. 00:46:34.000 --> 00:46:49.000 Where there's these long captions that aren't working well. Like, you don't need to go and adjust them and click them and split them and all of that. You can just edit the transcript in a way where you are parsing with hard returns. 00:46:49.000 --> 00:46:54.000 So, I'll just demonstrate this real quick. When I get to hear their performers, 00:46:54.000 --> 00:46:58.000 Hard return and meet them. 00:46:58.000 --> 00:47:03.000 Double hard return. This is going to appear as its own caption. 00:47:03.000 --> 00:47:07.000 And they describe themselves. 00:47:07.000 --> 00:47:10.000 As well as their costumes. 00:47:10.000 --> 00:47:11.000 double hard return. 00:47:11.000 --> 00:47:17.000 It gives me my first visit or return with the character. 00:47:17.000 --> 00:47:20.000 double hard return. 00:47:20.000 --> 00:47:22.000 Okay, and then… 00:47:22.000 --> 00:47:28.000 I want to add a speaker ID, because the person who's speaking has changed. 00:47:28.000 --> 00:47:30.000 So I'm going to go Corey colon. 00:47:30.000 --> 00:47:33.000 Um, he has the oversized clothing. 00:47:33.000 --> 00:47:36.000 And up here… 00:47:36.000 --> 00:47:37.000 I'm going to say Marcia. 00:47:37.000 --> 00:47:41.000 I think for young people, clothing… 00:47:41.000 --> 00:47:44.000 Okay, and then… 00:47:44.000 --> 00:47:48.000 We'll just keep doing this. Just bear with me as I… 00:47:48.000 --> 00:48:06.000 on parsing this transcript. 00:48:06.000 --> 00:48:09.000 Okay, I'll I'll stop in a moment. 00:48:09.000 --> 00:48:16.000 I just want to get to the one correction that I'm going to make. 00:48:16.000 --> 00:48:25.000 Okay, so here's where the auto captions didn't know what to do. He has the duag. 00:48:25.000 --> 00:48:29.000 But he's talking about… 00:48:29.000 --> 00:48:31.000 the… 00:48:31.000 --> 00:48:40.000 headpiece called the durag, the durag. So I'm changing a term correcting a clothing term, etc. 00:48:40.000 --> 00:48:45.000 So the neat thing about this is because of… 00:48:45.000 --> 00:48:48.000 YouTube's speech recognition technology. 00:48:48.000 --> 00:49:03.000 You don't have to re-synchronize or re-time any of this. It knows that the word them, it can hear the word them in the audio. And so it just re-times everything for me. So let's go ahead and play. 00:49:03.000 --> 00:49:05.000 And here we go. 00:49:05.000 --> 00:49:08.000 When I get to hear the performers and meet them, 00:49:08.000 --> 00:49:12.000 And they describe themselves as well as their costumes. 00:49:12.000 --> 00:49:20.000 It gives me my first visit with the character. And my name is Corey, I portray Buddy. Um, Buddy… 00:49:20.000 --> 00:49:21.000 Um, like 00:49:21.000 --> 00:49:27.000 So many of our inner city youth, he has the fitted cap that 00:49:27.000 --> 00:49:33.000 often not worn correctly and twisted to the side. He has the durag. 00:49:33.000 --> 00:49:34.000 Okay. 00:49:34.000 --> 00:49:36.000 Um, he has the saggy 00:49:36.000 --> 00:49:44.000 So I'll pause there. Any questions about this process? 00:49:44.000 --> 00:49:49.000 I know I kind of rushed through the demo, but… 00:49:49.000 --> 00:49:53.000 Any questions about what I was doing? Yeah, Eli. 00:49:53.000 --> 00:49:55.000 Yeah, I'm just kind of… 00:49:55.000 --> 00:50:01.000 I'm really curious, does it feel easier to do the captions in here than, like, in an editing software? 00:50:01.000 --> 00:50:02.000 So… 00:50:02.000 --> 00:50:04.000 Because it feels easier just watching you do it right now. 00:50:04.000 --> 00:50:24.000 Yeah, yeah. So there are, you know, some $50 a month captioning software that is incredibly powerful and has all sorts of amazing keyboard shortcuts and 80 different formats you can export as and you can deliver for broadcast and. 00:50:24.000 --> 00:50:30.000 You know, theatrical distribution, et cetera, et cetera. 00:50:30.000 --> 00:50:37.000 And they're great, but they are overkill. If what you're doing is web video. 00:50:37.000 --> 00:50:39.000 For YouTube, 00:50:39.000 --> 00:50:44.000 You… you can do this all with this edit transcript function. 00:50:44.000 --> 00:50:51.000 Um, you can add those speaker IDs. If you want to add a sound, 00:50:51.000 --> 00:51:03.000 So you can go to edit timings, and then let's say I want to add a caption about a sound, I can just open up some space down here in the timeline, click there. 00:51:03.000 --> 00:51:05.000 And then, uh… 00:51:05.000 --> 00:51:07.000 Whoops, sorry. 00:51:07.000 --> 00:51:10.000 Press the little plus icon here, and you'll 00:51:10.000 --> 00:51:14.000 We'll add a caption line there. 00:51:14.000 --> 00:51:15.000 And I'm gonna… 00:51:15.000 --> 00:51:20.000 Just extend it. The controls in the timeline are a little finicky. 00:51:20.000 --> 00:51:27.000 There's, you know, adding bracketed sound information can be a little taxing. 00:51:27.000 --> 00:51:37.000 But I would say, you know, audience member coughs, or whatever seems important at that moment that's happening. 00:51:37.000 --> 00:51:40.000 in terms of sound. 00:51:40.000 --> 00:51:41.000 Um, so… 00:51:41.000 --> 00:51:48.000 I really recommend if you all are, you know, managing accessibility for your YouTube channel. 00:51:48.000 --> 00:51:57.000 I don't think you need a post-production software to do this, and in many ways, like, I use Premiere Pro in my own editing work. 00:51:57.000 --> 00:52:09.000 it doesn't do as good a job as YouTube does. It doesn't recognize the words as well, and it certainly doesn't re-time 00:52:09.000 --> 00:52:19.000 Based on what you do in a text-only transcript. So, it's a very powerful tool, um, and I highly recommend just 00:52:19.000 --> 00:52:23.000 Yeah, using this environment. 00:52:23.000 --> 00:52:26.000 Uh, so I'll click… yeah, I'll click publish. 00:52:26.000 --> 00:52:33.000 And then the last thing I want to show, and I want to make sure we have five minutes for questions. 00:52:33.000 --> 00:52:34.000 Is… 00:52:34.000 --> 00:52:37.000 This audio here… 00:52:37.000 --> 00:52:39.000 Uh, you can go… 00:52:39.000 --> 00:52:42.000 You add descriptive audio. 00:52:42.000 --> 00:52:58.000 And again, this will only show up for YouTube Studio users who have access to the advanced features. So that's either given something up with your identity or it's being a solid YouTube. 00:52:58.000 --> 00:53:09.000 channel, which as organizations, I'm sure you all have solid YouTube channels, and you may have not even known that this feature was released to you. 00:53:09.000 --> 00:53:17.000 But definitely look into whether your organization's channel has it. So you'll go to Auto Add Descriptive Audio. 00:53:17.000 --> 00:53:21.000 You'll select a file. 00:53:21.000 --> 00:53:25.000 And I don't know where I put my file, but… 00:53:25.000 --> 00:53:28.000 You know, you'll you'll select that file, 00:53:28.000 --> 00:53:31.000 Actually, give me one moment and I will… 00:53:31.000 --> 00:53:45.000 Get that file back. I think I had it, but lost it. 00:53:45.000 --> 00:53:48.000 Okay. 00:53:48.000 --> 00:53:54.000 Let's try this again. 00:53:54.000 --> 00:53:56.000 Come on. 00:53:56.000 --> 00:53:58.000 Where is it? 00:53:58.000 --> 00:54:02.000 There it is. Okay, there's my WAV file. 00:54:02.000 --> 00:54:04.000 Open. 00:54:04.000 --> 00:54:05.000 Publish. 00:54:05.000 --> 00:54:08.000 And then update. 00:54:08.000 --> 00:54:20.000 And it can take a long time to add that for everything to process. But then your video will appear where you can click the gear icon. 00:54:20.000 --> 00:54:32.000 And instead of subtitle options, you can choose audio options and someone who's using a screen reader can activate the audio description audio track and hear that instead. 00:54:32.000 --> 00:54:47.000 So, okay, I only have 4 minutes left, but I'll stop screen share, and I'd love to answer any of your questions. I hope this was helpful. 00:54:47.000 --> 00:54:48.000 Yeah. 00:54:48.000 --> 00:54:54.000 This is Lonnie. I do have a question. I made a video last year. It was like a two-minute video. 00:54:54.000 --> 00:55:08.000 I didn't think about audio descriptions until after the fact. And so what we did was we actually created a secondary video with audio descriptions embedded. Does that seem like a reasonable? 00:55:08.000 --> 00:55:09.000 And… 00:55:09.000 --> 00:55:10.000 choice after the fact. 00:55:10.000 --> 00:55:23.000 That is right along the same lines as the other options I was mentioning, where if you have a link in the main video's description, 00:55:23.000 --> 00:55:24.000 Mm-hmm. 00:55:24.000 --> 00:55:37.000 that links out to an extended audio description track, right? So a longer video where you take more time with things. 00:55:37.000 --> 00:55:38.000 Okay. 00:55:38.000 --> 00:55:42.000 That is an acceptable way to do things. Now, for all of those links that take you somewhere else, 00:55:42.000 --> 00:55:50.000 The main drawback to that is you're taking someone out of the shared environment that everyone else is experiencing the video in. 00:55:50.000 --> 00:56:03.000 So there is a drawback to those alternatives that I mentioned. The ideal is to have a video that is edited in such a way that there is time 00:56:03.000 --> 00:56:07.000 to insert audio-described narration. 00:56:07.000 --> 00:56:08.000 Right. 00:56:08.000 --> 00:56:27.000 You do want to work with your production team and your post-production editors to really ensure that they don't rush through things, that, hey, this 90-second video, maybe we can make it 3 minutes, let the sighted audience observe and notice things visually more, 00:56:27.000 --> 00:56:43.000 So that there's time in the video to describe things for the blind audience as well. And that way, you know, in the same environment, everyone can leave likes and comments, um, and have experienced at the same URL. 00:56:43.000 --> 00:56:45.000 The, um… 00:56:45.000 --> 00:56:52.000 the version of the film that is best suited to them. So, um… 00:56:52.000 --> 00:57:01.000 Yes, I'd say, leilani, that is an acceptable thing, but there's an even better way, which is to really think about accessibility from the very beginning. 00:57:01.000 --> 00:57:02.000 Absolutely, absolutely. 00:57:02.000 --> 00:57:06.000 And work with your film team to incorporate the audio description. Yeah. 00:57:06.000 --> 00:57:07.000 Thank you. 00:57:07.000 --> 00:57:08.000 Yeah. 00:57:08.000 --> 00:57:14.000 We've got one more minute, if anyone's interested. 00:57:14.000 --> 00:57:26.000 Matt, what are, I mean, 00:57:26.000 --> 00:57:27.000 Mm-hmm. 00:57:27.000 --> 00:57:36.000 What are people? I feel that we have so many videos from seven years ago, eight years ago, posted on YouTube. What are most people doing? Are they… 00:57:36.000 --> 00:57:37.000 Yeah. 00:57:37.000 --> 00:57:42.000 Getting rid of that content? Are they archiving? Are they going back and doing kind of some of those tricks? 00:57:42.000 --> 00:58:04.000 I think there's two things that I… I am aware of people doing. One is, you know, the classic intern, right, where there's someone or, you know, a new, someone who's handling marketing, 00:58:04.000 --> 00:58:05.000 Yeah. 00:58:05.000 --> 00:58:10.000 Um, who just sort of chips away at it, you know, as, you know, YouTube makes it very easy, but it's still time-consuming, right? It takes as long, I'd say three times as long as the video is, right, at minimum. 00:58:10.000 --> 00:58:18.000 The other thing that people are doing is there are organizations, companies, one is called 3Play Media. 00:58:18.000 --> 00:58:25.000 Where you can basically, of course, it costs money, but you can send, um… 00:58:25.000 --> 00:58:35.000 a list of URLs to videos that you want captioned, and they have basically human assisted AI 00:58:35.000 --> 00:58:48.000 to polish all of the captions for those videos, and then they supply you with the SRTs, which is a side… like, a caption file that you have to then upload to 00:58:48.000 --> 00:59:03.000 that each Vimeo link. So, there still some hands-on work you need to do, but their prices are very reasonable and I can type into the chat what that organization name is called. It's three play. 00:59:03.000 --> 00:59:05.000 one word with the number three. 00:59:05.000 --> 00:59:08.000 media. 00:59:08.000 --> 00:59:13.000 Angela just pasted it in as well, the link. Thank you, Angela. 00:59:13.000 --> 00:59:32.000 Yeah. And I'm going to again share a descriptive transcript example with Ryan to follow up. And if any of you have any questions for me, there were still there was still more I would have loved to chat about or talk with you about, but we're out of time, but I really appreciate. 00:59:32.000 --> 00:59:38.000 your participation and enjoyed meeting you all. 00:59:38.000 --> 00:59:58.000 Awesome. Before everyone goes, I just launched a quick poll, four questions. Please fill out. I will not share this and. 00:59:58.000 --> 00:59:59.000 Good. 00:59:59.000 --> 01:00:08.000 Thank you all again for joining, and thank you, Matt. This has been wonderful. I really enjoyed it. I feel like there's a lot more. 01:00:08.000 --> 01:00:09.000 Yeah. 01:00:09.000 --> 01:00:11.000 content we could go in in directions that we can learn from you, Matt. So 01:00:11.000 --> 01:00:25.000 And yeah, our next ICT community of practice will be meeting February 11th. All right, at 3 p.m. Eastern Time. Please join us again for February 11th. 01:00:25.000 --> 01:00:39.000 Again, I just want to put out once you guys have registered for one for this season, you've registered for the next, the entire 4 sessions we meet quarterly. 01:00:39.000 --> 01:00:41.000 And. 01:00:41.000 --> 01:00:53.000 Again, quick plug, I'll put the resources from today and recording in the AT community that will. 01:00:53.000 --> 01:00:55.000 be… 01:00:55.000 --> 01:00:58.000 Let me just share that. 01:00:58.000 --> 01:01:03.000 link as well. 01:01:03.000 --> 01:01:08.000 And so that will be there in the AT community. 01:01:08.000 --> 01:01:13.000 And yeah, again, have a wonderful. 01:01:13.000 --> 01:01:18.000 week, and we'll be, 01:01:18.000 --> 01:01:33.000 If you have any other questions, yeah, please feel free to reach out to me. Thanks for joining, everyone, and I'm going to stay on and let, uh, yeah, if anybody has some additional questions. So yeah. 01:01:33.000 --> 01:01:59.000 Thank you, everyone.